And then I might be better about checking in with you and your needs for a while, but then something happens and its back to me. I have learned from him that I have always mothered him and even though I am awesome, I have given so much with littleeffort in return because he is hyperfocused on his priorities. They will always be more important than you. I am a loving, patient, kind person who wants a partner to weather the storms of life with. Guy didnt wish me happy birthday am I wrong to be upset? My cough doesnt produce anything other than an exsmokers clean up. I was "out of commission" for 6 weeks. And that look on his face is what I will always remember. Thank her sincerely for doing these things to you inspite of her 'reservations'. But one person doing all the nice things, loving things is very hard and eventually we all get tired of begging. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Qualities many w ADDdo not possess. Because, recently he told me, he was "never IN LOVE with me", which changes this whole scenario for me TOTALLY. He lovesfamily when they are joking with him, but not if they need him. (Soup after you just threw up is too soon). In the second, you instell a desire to avoid you, not connect. Okay, WE?? There, youll also find thoughts and questions by our community. It tends to be E>S in females, and S>E in males, and S>E in ADHD regardless of gender. So I've (40m) been married ten years now and I love my wife (40f), but she has the most annoying behavior pattern whenever I am sick. Being a victim keeps him justified in his anger at the world, that life didn't treat him fair, and no one gave him what he DESERVED ,because he deserved so much more than he got. Talking to a friend may be helpful, but you might also consider discussing your feelings with a mental health professional. I'm feeling better now! Some people are very loving and caring, others are pretty avoidant. We also had an outdoor wedding to attend two weeks after I broke my foot . After recovering from several hospitalizations, she went on to get a B.A. is already like this, it will only get worse. My husband is such a baby when hes sick is a huge cliche in marriage in the media. I was a great person, still am as are you. I do agree with you. And what Ive learned is, thats exactly why Im with you. No wonder folks with ADHD have built up some walls. What? He hates the snow. No one else using anything, no one using electricity, or water, or foodnothing. So it's easier when you can say, "ok 20% sucks if I let it but 80% is fabulous". Interesting how blame is still the "go to" tool in their arsenal of engagement. I've seen SO deeply moved by the plight of others. Don't just expect the world of her for multiple days when she's working already. If there IS, it's usually in a complaint or verbal assault on someone or something, that irritated him, again, "at the moment". 50K views, 259 likes, 10 loves, 511 comments, 68 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from Dr. Phil: He Eats a Raw Animal Meat Diet #rawmeat #DrPhil #talkshow And I take. Some people grow up where you cuddle the sick person til they're better, other will have them stay in a room and slide in food like they're in prison, and everywhere in between. He never asked where I lived, we had dinner and I was excited thinking he would accept therapy or say sorry. ever heard of obsessive compulsive personality disorder? I couldn't even keep them down or even water it was so bad and my mom called the Doc back and he said if I couldn't keep the water or pills down to take me into the emergency room? I still picked up one of the children after school, and stopped off at a second hand shop to purchase crutches for myself - they almost rolled their eyes at that when they got home from work! His kids are always going to come before you. That's not even in my nature.". (not a good sign). Of course, I got no help from him with ANYTHING for the 6 weeks my foot was in the cast. That's his job. God forbid that I ever get anything serious. Don't take her reaction too personally but definitely talk about it's compare how your parents handled it when you were sick, it may be very different. I have an illness. Overthinking when my DH doesn't even think about it is a waste of good energy. All part of marriage, I guess. If you ever became terminal, he would run for the hills. Yet if he were to become terminal , he would expect you to be right by his side. Not my H. He'd blow a gasket and likely also yell at me for ruining his life. I offered to set it up on his phone but of course he won't relinquish his phone, which is another story, and the primary basis of my divorce request. There's a few things that are scaring him, and he is right to be concerned. Everyone desires someone to pay attention to them from time to time, without having to demand it or schedule it . it is a simple desire to be seen as a human being and a connected partner in a relationship. We're still at the beginning of our diagnostic and therapeutic journey. You are right. Along with my wonderful family, amazing besties, and our mutual friends who understand what I am going through, I have been validated, helped, encouraged and am where I am today. Fortunately, I feel a little better now. Then we must note that he attempts, albeit it is poor and generic advice, to advise you on your illness. I do not think I will see a lasting change because myspousewith ADD is alwaysout for himself. I agree with Truth..his kids come first. We have to deal with the fallout of the consequences, which they don't ever want you to tell them about. He shows no concern for me - and this has to be narcissistic personality disorder. Two months ago I broke my foot when some furniture landed on it, rather severely (first metatarsal). I like what Melissa said earlier, about becoming the person our husbands fell in love with. I daze into the sunset and really feel lovefor that moment. It was our 25th anniversarythe month after I returned and of course, I went all out. Ya, it sucks being sick but it's a stomach bug. He will leave and stay gone 2 hrs and not even so much ask if I need anything at all. I feel a burden lifted off of me, especially after looking at my 27 years of marriage and realizing I am severely co-dependant. Love. Submitted by adhd32 on Mon, 04/17/2017 - 13:56. I was treated for cancer a few years ago & this really threw things into sharp relief. Please share ~ the relief is amazing! (pleasantly though, I LOVE MY DAUGHTER, and am glad she was born) My example is though, that people really DON'T want long term consequences for their actions, and in today's world, excuses and denials are what so many folks use to get "out of" having to live with the results of their own actions. I hear you, I cant count the number of times my husband made it very clear that myillness was a hughinconvenience for him there was no thought to how it made me feel. Do you notice periods of lucidity between the bouts of rage? It's not even his fault because stupid idiot "women" like you let men like him treat you like crap. Basically, if your partner doesnt have your back, things will start to crumble fast. I am a partner though, specifically yours. He stormed up to me, angrily, shouting WHAT THE HELL WERE YOU THINKING? When my husband started his first affair, I WAS a good woman. My husband has a 'man cold' right now. My experience with ADD people is they are takers. People are either takers or givers. You may want to reflect on your needs when you are sick as an adult. Nothing sexual ever happened but after 2 years of him love bombing me, calling me hot, beautiful, his soul mate, his twin, etc, he would discard me when I got too needy and hoover me back in when he needed an emotional pick me up. (Statements I've heard dozens of times, and heard again this week). The whole thing is just very, very HARD. You are not important. When I'm sick, yes. You know where I keep my emergency information, when to call 911. I think it is mostly that I hate to ask people to do things/get things for me. Newly wed so some things are quite new. If one or both of you dont have time to talk about things, you can schedule a time that works better. Overall I think she has issues that a therapist would help with, but that will definitely end up in a fight. Talk to her and use 'I need" statements. This is a personality disorder. But if I need or expect something maybe not so much because it wont register as now/love but as someone upset whether the upsetedness is valid or not. Need help with your relationship? But I believe I am blessed with many friends. Sign #12: He Doesnt Pay For Anything. Im the one who is on disability and hasnt worked in two years. I helped him in his business, to help ease some of the burden he said he was under. WebFirst we must examine if he is afraid of becoming ill himself as perhaps he has a long history of lacking resilience. Emotionless. You only get 1 life and your life matters, period. At one point my manager demanded I go see a medical doctor, which I already had, and because I was past two weeks of antibiotics and still sick, I was refused treatment. Theyve been together for 15 This is a great take. Do I wish that were not the case? Really? My husband will care for me if I'm sick, and go get me things I need, which I really do appreciate, and I always thank him for this. WHAT? Germaphobe type thing? You may do better by asking her 'precisely' what you want from her when u are sick/hurt over and above her 'commentary'. Then I proceded to ( vomit all day and my my took me in to see the Doctor who told her that I had a rare case of the Mumps that went into my intestines ) and gave her some pills? This marriage has changed me, first for the worst and now finally for the better. And again, why ask me to come back to him if he still can't DO that? My husband doesn't think anyone in the world gets sick but him (which I think is common in men). You must have JavaScript enabled to use this form. So he's taking it easy today and napping on and off. I love(d) H, and love (past, present and future)our children, our grandchildren, art, my business, my home. Pleasure. I can see how the advocated plan/tricks might work to create connection. I take and I take, and then I take some more. I want to leave him but my family is against it. And that was just with a scratchy throat. Perhaps he would consider reading the free treatment e-book (look in the treatment guide for it) and also consider adding some 'attend time' to his schedule. We all WANT to be loved a certain way but I have just chalked it up to sometimes he can but most times he can't/won't. It sucks but thats what it is. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. I have been happily married for 22 yrs. I can't help but think there is SOMETHING ELSE WRONG WITH HIM. yuck. Bring her gatorade, soup, crackers, etc. WebA female reader, aunt honesty +, writes (19 November 2011): It doesn't mean that he doesn't care. I think the explanation for her behavior lies in a few traits from her background: Latina with history of macho men in her past. (Although I didn't make him do the dishes). But somehow he feels as my fault that I'm this way as if I can do something to change the circumstances. (We do imitate our parents). 2. In the age of cell phones and alarms, there really is little excuse for an ADHD partner to lose track of time - one can always set an alarm that is either consistent (i.e. He will do things like say "You are not sick!!" 3. Some otc antacids helped. I want to say Thank you for sharing your story. I count my lucky stars his empathy score wasn't way off neurotypical, but even so, it is affected, and I do notice he's MUCH better about me being ill when he's just had what I've caught, because he doesn't have to imagine how I feel, he knows from personal experience. This becomes a real problem for me in one area especially. Never underestimate the callousness of the narcissist. If your S.O. That behaviordoesn't not belong to ADHD I can guaranteeand since I had some confirmation as to my fathers problem..I can say that in his casethat was NPD! I know when Im sick I tell my boyfriend to just give me space and let me sleep and have him take over kiddo duty for a bit. (Dirt, dust, cob webs, grease, filth, trash, broken stuff, computer junk, all over) Then there is the paperwork all over the place and our finances to get through. :) Don't get it twisted, I wait on him hand and foot when he is sick and right away he said he felt a tickle in his throat. Uggh. That's life. That's my two bits and I'm sticking too it. I grew up in a house where you were basically quarantined when sick. He didn't sleep well last night because he was stuffed up, coughing, etc. Do you think you can suggest implementing some of those changes without it dissolving into a fight? Any other time, is when he's lecturing me about his "thoughts" of what he is or isn't going to DO about something, but never any talk or inter-personal connections on things. I see we are out of aspirin and ask him if he knows of any in the house. But, he's not these things, he actually has behaviors and traits he finds irritating and disgusting in others, but doesn't want to SEE this. To us I should say. Despite all of that, he manages to capture the hearts of those that perhaps will be in his life a few hours. When he is having a great day, like this past Saturday, my efforts were worth it but I won't pretend that he is fixed. Yep. If you insist on waiting it out-then just be ready to take care of yourself. The behavior, not the label, is what matters. Lately he finds more reasons than not to leave the house to help someone else anybody else. I agree his kids should come first. I hope you left him. All big red flags. You are not important. Good point. You cant expect people to stop. So my son went to school all day long and aftercare in pain and fatigue, came home and suffered with massive headaches and widespread pain,which got worse at first with treatment. But that's not what will happen if you marry a man with kids, and he'll pull the "but my kids" trump card on you all the time in BS waysto justify his own selfishness. I am ok. But, he can't get past the victim hood yet.). The only thing he has genuinely shared from his therapy was the conclusion that he lies to everyone all the time. And when things happen to the kids the "mom" is always like I didn't know he would do that to our kids and abuse them even though I did. Second, gently encourage him to connect. Wanting to CONNECT? Wise1. My SO is not yet undergoing any kind of treatment. Privacy Communicate to your wife how much this sexless existence is torturing you because of your great love for her. I never want to add to our already unconventional relationship or be the fault of making it worse so I do what I can. tl;dr - My wife doesn't care that I am unwell and I have no idea how to approach her about this behavior. He is scared about his health lately. Even says just because I am sick, he is not going to pet me. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. He is Always the "Victim" and Everything is Always My Fault! She was in her second semester of college and was busy with school and work. Obviously. Jason and Maria want something entirely different out of the same marriage. If I am not in his presence at the moment, I am not on his mind. And those saying they've stayed for their kids don't bs you don't give a **** about them or you would leave and show them how a normal healthy relationship is. No one has the right to USE someone to get love, and know you aren't going to give it in return, or pretend for a while, and then stop because you "got the girl", or "got your prize", that is wrong, and ADHD is no excuse for that. Best Sex Positions to Improve Your Sex Life. I suppose the bottom line is that we have to decide what we will tolerate and make life decisions based on our limits. Other times? My husband thinks it's hilarious to ask when I'll be sexually available again but balks when I ask him for some ice to settle my stomach. He might show it in other ways. H's definition of love is thisafter I asked him "What does love mean to you?" I was so ill from stress and he never checked on me. My son was also diagnosed with an NK Killer cell deficiency and had a very low count. I drink a gulp of beer and a stoke of cigar and really feel love..for that moment. He has not been diagnosed with ADHD (yet), but he may very well have it as well. Someone who would listen to MY dreams, and want that for me, as much as I want his dreams and goals for him, and to help each other achieve those, if in our power. I had to pay out of pocket to see a naturopathic doctor trained by ILADS(it is the best training for Lyme disease and tick borne infections treatment.) Although Melissa's suggestions have some merit for a couple where there is active treatment adherence, I don't have much hope of change in my relationship with someone who never gives a thought to anyone else but himself. I hope he gets the help he needs! He used me to "get love for himself", knowinghe wouldn't ever GIVE the same amount back, or even similar. Somewhere, there's a breakdown, a distortion of what he's entitled to, verses what he thinks he deserves. We've never broached this subject before and I'm worried about it ending up in a fight. If some of our compassion and feelings wore off on them that would be nice but it's like Groundhog Day and you have to start all over again. Confirmed. His brother was paranoid-schizophrenic, diagnosed at 18 and died a few years ago from drug addiction. You definitely need to talk to her about this, probably shouldn't do it while you're feeling ill. Submitted by Punkin on Fri, 03/10/2017 - 07:12. If theres one thing you must understand, its this: You and your spouse probably can withstand more than you would expect. Submitted by peach on Tue, 12/13/2016 - 16:07. But, he can't get past the victim hood yet. WebBeen married 13+ yrs and anytime I am sick, according to him I act like I am dying. Got plenty of time to think about it. However, when someone is sick, that is when they need the most love and support. I scrolled through my phone contacts and one name popped out, an old mutual friend of ours. I would have been down on my kneesbegging for forgiveness.for making me go swimming with 104 degree temperatureand not believing me or showing the concern when I was told that I was sick and didn't feel well? I am sorry for your situation. After I broke my foot, the Orthopedist put me in a non weight bearing cast. Make him whatever type of soup he wants, bring him medicine, rub his head etc. (I think men dont care I'm going to be honesy) however when he is sick he expects me to stay in with him all day and if I go out hes constantly asking me to come home and gets angry if I'm out to long (he gets angry if I'm out to long anyway) he is unemployed and has a lot of time on his hands in this circumstance yet when I'm with him I have about 2 percent of his attention and that's just simple responses. ", Submitted by MelissaOrlov on Fri, 04/14/2017 - 14:29, Disconnection issues for those with ADHD come from a multitude of places. We all experience them. So many of the situations seem so crazily familiar. For many years, Larry Bocchiere cared for his wife, Deborah, who struggled with chronic obstructive pulmonary disease. Life goes on around us when we are sick. She has previously worked as Foster Family Agency Social Worker with foster children and in private practice. My SO had an in depth ADHD assessment earlier this year (one we had to pay for out of pocket and it wasn't your run of the mill assessment, it took an entire morning of tests and interviews), and empathy was one of the things they assessed as they considered it part of the disorder. He is withdrawing from you, and youre feeling alone. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. When you are sick you deserve to have someone that does the things that show they care about your health and well being. But just like I learned when I lost my job two years ago, a job I thought defined me, one singular part of my life does not define me. Of course. Submitted by dedelight4 on Sat, 04/15/2017 - 16:40. (again, fear). Maybe she doesnt even realize shes doing it. I asked him why he never, ever revealed that to me..no answer. He got mad at me because I went to grab the phone charger in the wall and didn't see it was connected to his phone (I needed to have a phone with me if I had to drive myself to the hospital in the middle of the night), he snapped at me that I am always in pain and should rent a hotel room in the hospital, etc, etc, and threw a different charger at me. If this happens once, it may not be a huge cause for concern. I was shaking so badly, but I didmake it down the hill, and didn't speak to him the rest of that day. I know my friends ahave been instrumental in plugging that gap for me. If the tables were turned, I know he'd be acting like he was at death's door if he simply had the sniffles. Thankfully, our two children were happy to help me. I do believe he is plagued internally by his demons and if I can't show compassion and let go of resentment, I would surely hate him for marrying me. I hope you left him. But we are talking about a lack of engagement here, right? Best of Luck to you all and I look forward to reading your story. But still, if I do get sick and need something, he's there, doing whatever. My ex didn't have ADHD. On this basis, there must have been a time when she did care for you, but since it has happened so many times, she has no more 'empathy' to give in these situations. I pretend I am single and take care of me and my home for me. WebIs it normal for a husband to not take care of his wife when she falls sick? My wife wants to be left alone all I want is take care of her just be there for her to help her I don't understand when I'm sick I love for her to take care of me maybe just hold my hand any one can help me, After 22 years of marriage , I've learned this the hard way and am done once our oldest has graduated high school. A true and internal lack of gratitude for his own life that God has granted him, and gratitude for the lives that have been entrusted TO him, which is an honor and which is humbling for the soul who can SEE this fact. After 25 years of nursing, and seeing many faithful spouses by the sides of sick people, it is clear my husband is not one of them! I understand what you mean. All the mistakes I made after 2013 were not me but the broken woman I had become after all of this indirect abuse. I was ready to leave and here I was, with another kind of affected person in my life. Stop selling your soul for sex, money or a sense of security. He would scream at me if I touched him that I was killing him. I occasionally get teary about it, my feelings were so hurt. My husband responded to me that if I went on medical leave I would have to stop seeing my doctor because he wouldn't pay for it anymore. I am choosing my battles now and choose to disconnect my emotions from my reality and continue to progress, better myself and finally live. Yeap, but there are moments I'm being shitty too so I thought to myself this is just fair. (regardless of what his mother did to him when he was small) Somewhere insidehimself, he knew he was holding back, and still did it, to his own detriment and the detriment of our marriage and love. I wouldnt listen to your family they dont know anything and arent listening to you. Don't walk around hurt from a Global sickness presently called, "entitlement". That is when he finally paid attention to me and accepted that I was sick. I, ME, MINE!! And that doctor he threatened to sue likely saved his son's life. (Sadly, he was not compliant enough with the whole thing and it didn't work). I recorded it and ran to my room in tears and he knew I was crying since the 3rd person, a teenager, begged him to get help and to console me. I'm glad that's 'not in your nature'except that it is. So if you want to connect, you will likely be the one to have to bring it up. WebMaybe he's the kind of person who doesn't want to be bothered when he's sick. Have enough respect without ego to treat yourself with a non-toxic man or woman. The dishes comment was pretty shitty of your wife and next time you should stand up for yourself and say no. All this crap about his kids "coming first" is just thatcrap. Set up a way for it to not be inconsistent. He love(s) the one he is with..as in.."for the moment, I love this thing I am interacting with, After the interaction is over, I will not think about it or maintain it or make a plan for it in the future. Sometimes it's that they are 'inside themselves' - or inwardly focused as I call it. Talk about unprofessional. Keep in mind that on his days off (F,ST,SN), he Does NOTHING! Instead he walked around the car, got in the back seat and proceeded to yell at me for the next 15 min about how "he does not have time for this" & "why did I call him(my husband) and not my sister or my niece". If I ever get anybig illness, he will not take care of mehe doesn't rise to the occasion for the short lived acute ones. It makes your partner retreat - the opposite of wanting to connect. Not a very nice thing to do to someone you say you "love". Dont gauge this for the rest of your marriage. I am not an illness. Oops! What does it take to stop running into these types of people? Submitted by dedelight4 on Fri, 04/14/2017 - 11:42, "our friends know the struggles and even when I am not present they can only take him in doses, bless them. explicit permission. Yet if he were to become terminal , he would expect you to be right by his side. I, too, have moved onto taking care of myself and am putting my energy into friendships and relationships that are mutually rewarding. 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